hoard lists for this Friday.

[owen matthew]

I will be playing this Friday with my brother again. I would like to try my hoard. I have a few lists with a couple questions.

I really want this army to get another 10 point profile... It would make list building so much easier!

1. Saturation and Sand-pit Hoard

Lycal x2
Mireling
Black Wolf
Chitinous Hound
Degenerate
Starving Degenerate
Beast Master

This one goes for blocking with the Mireling and Degenerates so I can move up safely with the Beast Master (BM), and flank to overwhelm with the rest of my models. He will only support the flankers, and go for Tamer every turn, as it is GOLDEN. The blockers will hold and strike as much as possible to create a wall-shaped sand pit, the Mireling on the inside closest to the BM to get the most out of Poison- the second I have taken out one or two models the goal is to continue to wrap up whatever is close.

I NEED to draw out one model or two to focus, overwhelm, and take out. If I can pull this off once or twice I will feel pretty good about the direction of the game. If not I go for tar-pit and move out with a couple models to go for objectives. The Degenerates are tough enough to soak up a couple turns.. If the opponent spreads out for objectives my job is done.

The larger question I have is this... do I use the beast master or proxy in the Flesh master... What is better, the tamer ability, or the SP neutralizer... Testing will tell. I will buy him as soon as he comes in to the LGS, in any case.

Not to many savagery counters, but I don't think it will matter. I just need to be careful about how I use the ones I do every turn. Spend them on Tamer, or on CBT boosts when I need to focus on cutting out a foe.

Black Wolf goes for objectives and uses Loner to stay flexible.

This changes based on mission or objective, obviously.

2. Savagery and management

Lycal x2
Mireling
Black Wolf
Chitinous Hound
Beast Master
Savage Master

I do not like using a 30 point model, its too many eggs in one basket, but Lem convinced me he was worth a shot. I own all of these models. For the above list I would still need to buy the degenerates.

OR,

3. A twist on the above.

Lycal x3
Mireling
Black Wolf
Degenerate
Beast Master
Flesh Master

After testing I will see about 1 Lycal and a Chitinous Hound, It would drop the numbers down a bit, but the Lycals are not much after the errata, and the C Hound is now so much better for 5 points of increase.


In general I think its still a toss-up between the Dominants Beast Master and Flesh Master. Maybe both will work but it cuts the numbers...

Do any of you out there have any experience using one, or two dominants? What are your thoughts? Do you really NEED two?

Thanks!